Build the NAS from hell from an old nimble CS460

About 5 years ago we bought some nimble storage arrays for customer services… well those things are out of production and since they have the street value of 3 pennys I figured it was time to reverse engineer and use them for other purposes.

The enclosure is made by supermicro, its a bridge bay server which has 2 E5600 based systems attached to one side of the SAS backplane and 2 internal 10G interfaces. It appears they have a USB drive to boot an image of the OS and then they store configuration on a shared LVM or some sort of cluster filesystem on the drives themselves. Each controller has what looks like a 1GB NVRam to Flash pci-e card that is used to ack writes as they come in, and get mirrored internally over the 10G interfaces.

I plan to use one controller (server) as my Plex Media box and the other one for virtual machines. The plan right now is to use BTRFS for the drives and use BCache for SSD acceleration of the block devices. I can run iSCSI over the internal interface to provide storage to the 2nd controller as VM host.

To be continued.

— Update

Found out both of my controllers had bad motherboards, one was fine with a single cpu and would randomly restart, the other wouldn’t post. I feel bad for anyone still running a nimble, its a ticking time bomb. So I grabbed 2 controllers off ebay for $100 shipped, they got here today and both were good. I went ahead and flashed the firmware to the supermicro vanilla so I could get access to the bios. I had to use the internal USB port as nimbles firmware disables the rest of the USB boot devices and the bios password is set even with defaults so you can’t login. I tried the available password on the ole interwebs but nothing seemed to work, it only accepts 6 chars but the online passwords are 8-12.

 

Looks like bcacheFS is gonna be the next badass filesystem now that btrfs has been dropped by redhat. Will have full write offloading and cache support like ZFS so we can use the NVRam card. Speaking of write cache, I have an email into NetList to try and get the kernel module for their 1G NVram write cache card. Worse case scenario I have to pull it out of the kernel nimble was using…

As of writing this I have both controllers running CentOS7 installed to their own partitions on the first drive in the array, and I have /boot and the boot loader installed to the 4G USB drives that nimble had their bootloader installed to.

 

sda 8:0 0 558.9G 0 disk
sdb 8:16 0 558.9G 0 disk
sdc 8:32 0 558.9G 0 disk
sdd 8:48 0 558.9G 0 disk
sde 8:64 0 1.8T 0 disk
sdf 8:80 0 1.8T 0 disk
sdg 8:96 0 1.8T 0 disk
sdh 8:112 0 1.8T 0 disk
sdi 8:128 0 1.8T 0 disk
sdj 8:144 0 1.8T 0 disk
sdk 8:160 0 1.8T 0 disk
sdl 8:176 0 1.8T 0 disk
sdm 8:192 0 1.8T 0 disk
sdn 8:208 0 1.8T 0 disk
sdo 8:224 0 1.8T 0 disk
sdp 8:240 0 1.8T 0 disk
sdq 65:0 0 3.8G 0 disk

And I went ahead and created an MDRaid array on 6 of the spindle disk with LVM to get started messing with it. I need to get bcachefs compiled to the kernel and give that a go, will come with time!

Personalities : [raid6] [raid5] [raid4]
md0 : active raid5 sdj[6] sdi[4] sdh[3] sdg[2] sdf[1] sde[0]
      9766912000 blocks super 1.2 level 5, 512k chunk, algorithm 2 [6/5] [UUUUU_]
      [=>...................]  recovery =  7.7% (151757824/1953382400) finish=596.9min speed=50304K/sec
      bitmap: 5/15 pages [20KB], 65536KB chunk

Maybe I’ll dabble with iSCSI tomorrow.

— Update

Installed Plex Tonight, spent some time getting sonarr and other msc tools for acquring metadata and video from the interballs. Also started investigating bcache and bacachefs deployment in CentOS. http://10sa.com/sql_stories/?p=1052

Also started investigating some water blocks to potentially use water cooling on my NAS… its too loud and buying different heatsinks doesn’t seem very practical when a water block is $15 on ebay

 

–Update

I am def going to use water cooling, the 40mm fans are really annoying and this system has rather powerful E5645 cpus which have decent thermal output.   I found some 120MM aluminum radiators in ebay for almost nothing, so 2 blocks + fittings + hose is going to be around $80 per system.  I need to find a cheap pump option but I think I know what I’m doing there.

Heres a picture of one of the controller modules with the fans and a cpu removed.

 

A 80mm fan fits perfectly and 2 of the 3 bolt holes even line up to mount it in the rear of the chassis.  I will most likely order some better fans from delta with PWM/Speed capability so that the SM smart bios can properly speed them up and down.   You can see that supermicro/nimble put 0 effort into airflow management in these systems.  They are using 1U heatsinks with no ducting at all so airflow is “best efforts” I would guess the front cpu probably runs 40-50C most of its life simply due to the fact airflow is only created by a fixed 40mm fan in front of it.

 

–Update

Welp I got the news I figured I would about the NV1 card from NetList,  it is EOL and they stopped driver r development for it.  They were nice enough to send me ALL of the documentation and kernel module though, it supports up to kernel 2.6.38 so you could run latest centos 6 and get it supported.. maybe ill mess with that?  I attached it here incase anyone wants the firmware or linux kernel module driver for the Netlist NV1.  Netlist-1.4-6 Release

6 Responses

  1. Jacob March 30, 2021 / 5:13 pm

    great writeup!

  2. Tim Rosenquist September 29, 2021 / 2:21 pm

    Thanks for the write-up. The pictures are unfortunately not loading up anymore. I was wondering what would be required to upgrade a CS200 series controller to a CS400 series and it appears a hexa-core CPU (we have some E5649 processors) upgrade is needed along with some RAM.
    Is the BIOS still password protected even after the Super-Micro vanilla BIOS update?

    • Tyler Bishop September 29, 2021 / 2:38 pm

      Hi Tim,

      The nimble cs440 controller was an E5645 but frankly I doubt it validates cpus. I think they had 24G of ram on the controller as well.

      No the bios was not protected after flash and would still boot nimble OS just fine.

  3. Jesse September 30, 2021 / 4:56 pm

    Hi! I also have an older Nimble (CS220) and wanted to do what you did. What firmware/BIOS did you use to flash the controllers? I couldn’t find one that matched my exact Mobo and Supermicro won’t help, saying any updated firmware I have to get from Nimble (HP).

    • Tyler Bishop September 30, 2021 / 8:07 pm

      The board itself should have a model on it that is available from the supermicro site.. at least thats how my 4xx controller server was. I dont have this gear any more so I cant look now.

      From some googling it looks like the board is X8DTS-F and its no longer on the supermicro site. You will need to find the bios from some archive site. The old link appears to be https://www.supermicro.com/support/resources/getfile.aspx?ID=1551

  4. Tslawn September 9, 2022 / 4:59 pm

    Hey Tyler,

    This is a fantastic write up. My company got ahold of an old cs500 but I am a network guy so I know zero about storage. I could use some help getting Truenas on it.

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